FURD... WTF?
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FURD... WTF?
BTW -
Why does the word F O R D get misspelled in each post?!?
I don't think much of their vehicles, but they aren't on the government bailout list so they are winners with me.
Why does the word F O R D get misspelled in each post?!?
I don't think much of their vehicles, but they aren't on the government bailout list so they are winners with me.

jerry46765- 2012 Donating Member

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The hell with all car manufacturer's. That's why I drive a 73

billy-ray- G3GM Enthusiast

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Furd and all their workers were lucky, no bail-out BS. If GM was left on it's own, I'm sure a lot of folks would have been out of work until now, along with the 9.1 % we have currently. Sad state of affairs in this country....
Bad management must be a contributing factor to the problem, along with corporate greed....
Bad management must be a contributing factor to the problem, along with corporate greed....
pila- 2012 Donating Member

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because its a cuss word
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BlackChevelleSS- G3GM Senior Member

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that has been set at a cuss word since the inception of this Site and I dont see it changing anytime soon
Limey SE- Management

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I think I speak for a lot of people, when I say, I'm a car guy. I like everything. Yes, GM is my favorite manufacturer. I bleed GM blue. But FoMoCo made a lot spectacular cars, as well. I don't dislike a car, just because of a little blue oval on the front.
Just my $0.02
Just my $0.02
74MonteCarlo- G3GM Fanatic

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While I agree w/ 74Monte for the Mustang and Shelby inspired Cars...I can say owning an everyday, run of the mill Mercury Montego (Sable/500/Taurus); [b]F*****g Obviously Regret Decision.[/b] If you want something good or great from Furd, you have to shell out big bucks, like ZR-1 money for example or at least 40k+. As far as daily drivers go, they can keep 'em all in my opinion from experience & ownership...had an Escort also which was a money pit, like my Merc. I've had Jeeps, Dodges & GM's...Furd is at the bottom of my list of Domestics.

77mali- 2012 Donating Member

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Lol...my dad designed all of the instrument panel wiring in the Montego, Five Hundred & Freestyle when they came out in '05 
74MonteCarlo- G3GM Fanatic

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if you guys think fords are the worst of the domestics, take it from someone who works on cars for a living, anything dodge/jeep/chrysler is the biggest piles of whoa nelly on the road. Out of all the domestic brands, no other manufacturer has more poorly designed, underperforming, cheaply made vehicles than them.

TWBouska AKA Wooderson- G3GM Enthusiast

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Funny how different people have different experiences with cars. I've owned two Sables w/Duratec engines and they went over 160K with very minimal maintenance. Owned three early-mid 90's Explorers and hit 200K on two and 175K on the other with only routine maintenance.

Mcarlo77- 2012 Donating Member

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Poorly made vs. poorly designed are two different things in IMO. The interior of my 06 Dodge looks cheaper than the interior of the 97 Dodge. I think this is a by product of Mercedes keeping Chrysler's cash for themselves.
I do like the new Dodges. The new Charger has me drooling. The interior is first rate.
Poor design is stuff that isn't so obvious. Like the 3.5 engine that Dodge uses. My 97 had one, and I liked the power it had and never actually had a problem with it. My sister had a Concorde with the same engine and did have a problem. The water pump is driven with the camshaft timing belt. It is also prone to fail when their are over 100,000 miles. So when it fails, the engine stops running. The newer 3.5's are now interference engines, so when the water pump fails, you are likely to destroy the entire engine instantly.
I do like the new Dodges. The new Charger has me drooling. The interior is first rate.
Poor design is stuff that isn't so obvious. Like the 3.5 engine that Dodge uses. My 97 had one, and I liked the power it had and never actually had a problem with it. My sister had a Concorde with the same engine and did have a problem. The water pump is driven with the camshaft timing belt. It is also prone to fail when their are over 100,000 miles. So when it fails, the engine stops running. The newer 3.5's are now interference engines, so when the water pump fails, you are likely to destroy the entire engine instantly.

bigredlaguna- G3GM Enthusiast

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I had two good Fords at the same time, a '40 pickup with a Caddy engine, and a '40 coupe with a Olds engine. The other good Furd I had was a '49 2-door, flathead V8, a good engine in it's day. Owned those in the 60s, as fun cars....family cars were always GM of one model or another....Pontiacs or Cadillacs...
In regard to Chrysler products, my next younger brother retired from the Jeep plant two years ago, as a supervisor. I could have done a discount deal for a new Dodge pickup, but folks I know who have them seem to have transmission problems, so I'm still driving my old '92 Chevy pickup, with 257 K miles on it.
In regard to Chrysler products, my next younger brother retired from the Jeep plant two years ago, as a supervisor. I could have done a discount deal for a new Dodge pickup, but folks I know who have them seem to have transmission problems, so I'm still driving my old '92 Chevy pickup, with 257 K miles on it.
pila- 2012 Donating Member

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A friend and his wife, who is a car nut, went to look at the new Camaros, Mustangs, and the Charger. He said the fit of the doors, hood, and trunk etc on the Dodge, was really bad.
His wife said that the new Camaro was "too dam quiet, and needs some mufflers"
His wife said that the new Camaro was "too dam quiet, and needs some mufflers"
pila- 2012 Donating Member

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pila wrote:Furd and all their workers were lucky, no bail-out BS. If GM was left on it's own, I'm sure a lot of folks would have been out of work until now, along with the 9.1 % we have currently. Sad state of affairs in this country....
Bad management must be a contributing factor to the problem, along with corporate greed....
Lets not forget union greed.... Does some really deserve $25/hr to put lugnuts on a car for 8 hours a day?
You want better pay? Better yourself through education!

Biomedtech- G3GM Member

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74MonteCarlo wrote:Lol...my dad designed all of the instrument panel wiring in the Montego, Five Hundred & Freestyle when they came out in '05
Does your dad know the engineer's who designed the CVT in 05? (they prob work for Volvo)...I just spent an OBSCENE amount of money on a Transmission...Furd CVT w/ AWD. Only have 114K on the Car the Duratec 3.0 is good but the tyranny is way under engineered. I researched this and Furd does not even make parts for their CVT's anymore. Junkyards are charging over 2K for trans w/ unknown miles on these cars and the good trans shops are buying them, & rebuilding them w/ good scavenged parts. If i told you what I just spent on this thing you'd
a brick. Guess I should have done more research but fair warning....if you have one of these transmissions and you plan to keep the car, get your checkbook ready. I maintain my cars and don't abuse them. I have never had a new car that the trans has failed. It's also funny how when these cars turned back from 500/Montego...to Taurus and Sable...there was a completely new transmission. Makes you wonder if they new this would fail and did not care. They even hid the trans dip stick under the MAF & Air Filter Housing. My li'l 2000 Jeep Cherokee went for over 250K with no more than regular maint., 2 brake jobs and an O2 sensor. If i had to choose between buying a brand new Jeep Cherokee and getting a Furd for free...I'd happily take the Jeep.
77mali- 2012 Donating Member

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