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Post by Tom77 on Sun Apr 07, 2013 8:39 am

Looking to replace steering gear. What would be some of your suggestions on which to buy. Just for daily driving no road courses in Ghost Riders future.
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Re: New Steering Gear Sugestions

Post by ant7377 on Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:49 am

When you say steering gear do you mean a new steering box or do you mean new tie rods and stuff? If you mean a steering box many have been pleased with this guy- http://lee-powersteering.com/index.htm

Mike from Poland used him on his 73 Monte and he is very pleased.

As far a front end rebuild ive used kits from here- P-s-t.com
worked well for me.
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Re: New Steering Gear Sugestions

Post by Tom77 on Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:55 pm

Looking on rock auto and they have three kinds. Stock 10 to 1 and 16 to 1. Just wondering would this make a big difference?
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Re: New Steering Gear Sugestions

Post by Joe73 on Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:14 pm

Depending on what your going for, I remember when guys would grab a monte SS steering box and put them in their older cars. If I remember correctly the thread for the hose into your pump needed an adaptor. The monte box was metric. But it gave you a nice quick ratio box.

Just a thought.
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Post by 77mali on Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:17 pm

The 12.7:1 is considered to be a good upgrade and a common swap from the 70's & early 80's Camaro & Firebird, If I'm remembering correctly.

Never heard of a 16:1 ratio for our cars, that's interesting.
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Post by pila on Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:26 pm

On my Malibu, I exchanged the old hi-ratio box for a rebuilt 12-to-1 box., at Advance Auto. That was around 1999 or so..

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Re: New Steering Gear Sugestions

Post by bigredlaguna on Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:51 pm

I'm going to put a Monte SS in my Laguna. I put one in my daughter's 77 Skylark and it really makes it fun to drive.

However, if you just want to cruise and have fewer turns lock-to-lock also, a variable-ratio box may be the ticket. The Monte box is very sensitive to off-center inputs and if you aren't used to it, you will be weaving down the road like a drunk driver.
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Post by michiganlarry on Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:35 am

I have put the 12:1 boxes in my 68 Firebird and now my son's 75 Malibu. I love it in the Firebird but have not driven it in the Chevy yet. You can get the with either kind of fittings just do a little research. I think the one in the Firebird came from an early 70's T/A.
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Post by bigredlaguna on Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:51 am

If you care about parking lot maneuverability, then don't use one from a T/A. The turning radius of the car will increase because the total sweep of the gearbox is less than the factory box.
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Post by Bruisr on Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:11 am

I had a 79 firebird I used for a few parts. The front sway bar and the steering box. I'm not certain of the ratio, but I know it feels and reacts alot better. I'm gonna guess it to be a 12:1. It bolted right in. I don't understand what bigredlaguna states about total sweep, but I don't think I have that problem. I don't have any specific goals in mind with my elco, but with the poly bushings,kyb shocks, 1 1/4 front sway bar, and stock rear sway bar, with a half coil cut out of front springs, the handling was a much welcomed improvement! It corners like a slot car I think! I like it!!!
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Post by michiganlarry on Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:20 am

There is a chart somewhere on the web that lists the degree that each box will turn. Some do turn more than others. My Firebird seems ok to me.
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Post by bigredlaguna on Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:33 am

IIRC the sweep of the factory gear is in the mid 80* range, and the T/A gear is in the 70* range. All it means is that the wheels don't turn as sharp at full lock.
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Post by Bruisr on Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:41 am

That makes sense now. I can honestly say, I never noticed it if its happening to me. I don't like to make u turns, and rarely go to full lock. I usely just goose it and slide thru the corner! LOL, when I was younger, and could afford them tickets. HAHA!
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Post by Pontichev327 on Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:13 am

I have a firebird box in my Laguna... has great road feel and response, but the turning radius is not as tight for sure. I have to make a sharp u-turn to get to my street sometimes, and before the change I could make it in one motion. Now it takes two. All my other cars can make the turn in one motion too.
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