starter issues

by thepossumface Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:56 am

so i need to fix this small problem, my starter is getting ate up, my first one just did it out the blue, my second new one ran good for a few days then ate it up enough to just make a grinding noise, flywheel is good and putting a starter with headers suck so i do not wanna do it 3-4 times if possible

by dynchel Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:31 am

Did you make sure it was lined up properly? If it was rebuilt It may need shimmed. What I do is install the starter and with the header out of the way, disconnect the power to the dizzy so the engine can be cranked with out starting. Crank the engine and listen to how it sounds to help determine if it needs shimmed or not. I am very familiar with the pita that headers cause on a SBC.

by 77mali Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:53 am

What kind of starter, do you have a pic?

by thatfnthing Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:47 pm

FWIW, when I got my new mini starter, it said to check the clearance between the teeth on the starter gear and the flexplate:

1. Remove the torque converter cover
2. Use a screwdriver to pry the starter gear rearward enough to engage the teeth on the flexplate
3. Make sure the end of a paper clip would fit in between the gear teeth

Anything less than this requires shimming the starter to increase the clearance. If there is insufficient clearance, the starter gear could just grind against the flexplate, or the starter could suffer premature bearing wear. Obviously, make sure battery is disconnected before doing any of this. Smile

by Bruisr Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:19 pm

Are you using the specific bolts for the starter? Sounds stupid, but the starter bolts are shouldered to keep the starter from moving around, and, are they the proper length? I suggest this because sometimes the easy fixes are very often overlooked. What brand is the starter?

by thepossumface Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:16 pm

if im not mistaken its a value craft from autozone 30 dollar one, but why would the first one do the same wen its been on for 2 yrs?

by thepossumface Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:16 pm

found my prob i have a metric flywheel, i was getting standard ones

by Bruisr Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:47 pm

What do you mean by metric flywheel? I didn't know there was such a thing!

by thepossumface Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:13 pm

sorry i guess there are 2 types of flywheels for a 350 metric is smaller than the older style standard thicker ones, but thats just my idea on what ive read.

by Bruisr Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:24 pm

I'm think you might be referring to tooth count?! There is 153 and 168 tooth flexplates that will bolt onto SBC and BBC engines. I think the only real deciding factor is what type of starter you have. Some factory and aftermarket starters will not work on both and are some designed specifically for a certain tooth count. I have noticed that the staggered bolt pattern starters tend to use the 168 tooth flexplates. You should find out what size (tooth count) starter you have. Are you using a straight across bolt pattern on your starter, or what year is your block.. I can't believe I didn't catch this earlier!!!! After reading your post above, I assuming your after a 153 tooth flexplate. They seem to be the common size for the ministarters.

by 77mali Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:59 pm

I have both a 168 Tooth & 153. The larger is a bit over 12" in diameter & the other is a bit over 10". They'll both work on a SBC but you have to get the right starter. I've noticed that the smaller wheel is for the straight across bolt pattern on many aftermarket starters & the 168 would be for the offset bolt pattern. They key to your problem is correct alignment engaging the pinion tooth gear on the starter to the gear mesh (ring gear on the flex plate/flywheel). If you had a pic of the starter that might help but you should have got instructions with it...if not look at this....Bigred posted this for me as I had some issues too...LOL
http://econtent.autozone.com:24999/znetcs/psb/en_US/2/0/45/tbstr01.pdf

by thepossumface Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:12 pm

well the #s on my block were grinded off, and makes me nervous as to why..called the guy to ask him but he hung up on me..so im worried it maybe stolen, but i got a starter from a 89 camaro thats what i found it MIGHT be out of from papers i found under the carpet

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