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Post by Roadcaptain S3 on Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:51 am

After years of whining, I'm going to try it myself.

I know NOTHING. Any advice on the type of welder to get for minor tinkering and teaching myself how to do it. First project will probably be building and welding in some brackets to mount swivels and console sometime this winter. Plan to find some scrap to practice on before hand.

I was looking at the little $99 little wire welder from good ol Harbor freight.
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Post by dynchel on Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:38 am

A mig with shielding gas (argon) is the easiest to learn on.
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Post by Joe73 on Sun Nov 23, 2014 1:36 pm

And then hit harbor freight with a 20% coupon. But definitely go with the argon shielding gas. You'll have to buy a bottle and have it filled. The harbor freight welding cart with wheels is also decent. And it leaves space for a plasma cutter on the bottom shelf!!
Dont bother with the flux cored wire for the mig. It works, but you can have any breeze or anything. Argon is the better way to go.

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Post by chevellelaguna on Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:08 pm

Be mindful whether it's 110 or 220 volts, not sure if you have easy access to a220 volt plug. I have several mig welders, it's nice having a 110 volt machine can load it up in the car and take it anywhere. I would look for a used one on craigslist in your area. Absolutely go with shielded gas. Much easier, less frustrating for a first time inexterienced person. The more you practice the better you'll get.
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Post by Roadcaptain S3 on Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:10 pm

Recommendations on brand or type of shielded MIG? I only have 110 in the garage.
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Post by dynchel on Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:12 pm

Nice welder Joe, my wife works at Lincoln electronic, building welders.  I have lincoln welder (obviously) it runs on 110, and does just fine.
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Post by ant7377 on Sun Nov 23, 2014 4:17 pm

I have the same one as joe. I dont know what the hell im doing though so im no help. I need to get the argon kit that adapts it to my welder. The holes are there nut i never bought the tank
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Post by Joe73 on Sun Nov 23, 2014 4:30 pm

I've done (3) pairs of quarters and (2) sets of floorboards over the years with that welder. Not to mention a couple patch panels and treestands. I still love my arc welder though.
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Post by thatfnthing on Sun Nov 23, 2014 5:37 pm

Check your local community education at trade schools, community colleges, etc. You will likely find a welding class available that will teach you the basics and show you proper technique and differences between types of welding/welders, and you can get practice time in before taking the torch to your own car. I took one way back when and actually dragged my car in and welded the quarter skins on. Planning on taking a refresher at some point.
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Post by Roadcaptain S3 on Sun Nov 23, 2014 5:41 pm

Yeah, checked into those...700 smackers. Figure I can buy the welder and some scrap fro less than that, then set myself on fire. I've got a friend that can probably show me what to get and what to do, but he's 12 hours a day, 6 days a week at Ford at the moment.

I looked for the welder Joe and Ant were talking  about and Lincoln apparently no longer makes that model.
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Post by thatfnthing on Sun Nov 23, 2014 5:51 pm

$700.00?  Wow! It only cost me $60.00 through local community ed.  Granted that was a while back, but it would surprise me that it's skyrocketed that much.  If that's the the case, though, you're right -- better off to do some research on the interwebs, buy a unit and some scrap, and get practicing.  And the guys are right on the gas-shielded -- the flux-core stuff throws a lot of slag around that you will have to grind off.
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Post by Roadcaptain S3 on Sun Nov 23, 2014 5:54 pm

That was the cheap course. The longer class was closer to 1000. It looked like a great course, but you are buying the materials, paying the instructor etc. Of course that's the local adult ed. Comm College forty mile from here might be cheaper, didn't check

Looks like the newer version of Joe's welder is the Lincoln 140.
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Post by thatfnthing on Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:01 pm

A quick look around our area shows that there appears to be a difference between career or vocational welding courses, which are in the neighborhood you described, and 'recreational welding' courses, which only run about $150.00.  I'm thinking the latter is the one that applies here, but there seems to be fewer of those. Neutral
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Post by Roadcaptain S3 on Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:06 pm

Probably.

I looked into it last year shortly after I retired. Had the time but the price was silly. I just assumed they were all about the same.

You've inspired me to dig a little.

I think i found a Lincoln 140 close to me with all of the accessories for 600.
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Post by dynchel on Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:08 pm

Another "accessory" that is a must have IMHO is a auto darkening helmet.  Once you use one you will never want to be without it.
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Post by Roadcaptain S3 on Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:11 pm

This guy has the cart, jacket, gloves and  kobalt AD helmet,extra wire, gas gauges, magnets, chipping hammer
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Post by Joe73 on Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:45 pm

dynchel wrote:Another "accessory" that is a must have IMHO is a auto darkening helmet.  Once you use one you will never want to be without it.

And I have to say that the harbor freight auto darkening for $40 on sale works well too. I've had mine for years and still works good. Mines solar charged so no batteries to add.
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Post by ant7377 on Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:07 pm

I think mine was around 250 bucks 12 years ago. I really could practice with it and probably get good but i cant do it inside and its starting to get too cold out. Making excuses though.
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Post by ant7377 on Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:08 pm

Yeah definatly need the auto darken helmet. Mine works good too.
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Post by Roadcaptain S3 on Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:08 pm

It was too cold up there in September for me bro.
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Post by ant7377 on Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:12 pm

Roadcaptain S3 wrote:It was too cold up there in September for me bro.

Haha! Me and Joe are about 15 miles away from each other we both are stuck inside till April.
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Post by Roadcaptain S3 on Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:14 pm

I feel bad for ya. We complain about a few inches.

I went to a school with a guy from your neck o the woods. His roomy was from Houston. You shoulda seen the fights over the thermostat.

Hang in man.
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Post by Joe73 on Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:15 pm

When hunting season ends the third week in december, then I'll be inside. But only until there's enough ice to go ice fishing.
Still have plenty of wood to split as well.

But looking forward to doing a teardown and rebuild of my original muncie trans over the winter.
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Post by ant7377 on Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:19 pm

Hey Joe good for you . Make good use of the time. Maybe I gotta think of a winter project on my cars. Still hate the damn winter though.
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