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Post by 76 Malibu on Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:54 am

I am going to try and convert my '76 Malibu from stacked lights to single this summer as long as I can get the bodywork done on the new parts.  I have used headlight buckets from a 1974 Malibu.  They are in good shape, but one of the headlight retaining rings is damaged.  

Anyone know a good source for one?  I also need to replace all adjustment hardware, any good source for that?

Anyone know a decent round headlamp upgrade that will give more light than stock?


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Post by Limey SE on Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:00 pm

OPGI has the retaining rings and I think the hardware, and any newer Headlamp is better than 38 year old light bulbs
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Post by dynchel on Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:20 pm

Check eBay for headlight upgrade. Just remember you get what you pay for.
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Post by 76 Malibu on Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:24 pm

Does anyone have a used ring they are willing to sell. The shipping and exchange to Canada is expensive on the OPG part.

Any recommendations on the type of lights? I don't want some cheap off shore junk.
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Post by Limey SE on Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:38 pm

Pay for it and have it Shipped here I will mail them to you thru USPS no problems
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Post by Limey SE on Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:39 pm

Or Paypal me the Monies to purchase them for you and add a Little extra for the Ship to you
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Post by bigredlaguna on Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:31 pm

I use the Sylvania Silverstar lamps. They are readily available and I think they have a good light output.
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Post by pila on Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:34 pm

I have the Silver Star lamps in my Elco project. They should at least be an improvement over halogens...

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Post by chevellelaguna on Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:16 pm

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Post by 76 Malibu on Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:06 pm

Limey SE wrote:Pay for it and have it Shipped here I will mail them to you thru USPS no problems

Thanks for the offer.  I may have a be able to get one from ChevelleLaguna.

chevellelaguna wrote:PM and email sent

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Does anyone know what other cars used the same headlight ring as the 1973-1975 Chevelles? And to the Lagunas take the same as non-Laguna cars? I seen some listings only for Lagunas.  It seems they are also different from the 1971-72 cars for some reason.
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Post by dynchel on Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:12 pm

A '70's camaro would probably be the same.
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Post by Limey SE on Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:14 pm

I don't see why they wont work on the Laguna to the Chevelle its the same size bulb only difference would be the chrome Surround piece ( not the actual headlight ring ) AndSingle headlight cars went to 76 Maybe even 77 They were Base Model Malibu's Not Malibu Classic's
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Post by 76 Malibu on Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:16 pm

Looking around at Ecklers site it looks like they have the same listing for the 1973-75 Chevelles and the 1976+ Camaros. They list the same OEM part number for both cars, although they list two different prices for each. Then NPD lists that the 1973-77 Chevelles use the same ring as the early Camaros and 1971-72 Chevelles.

https://www.npdlink.com/store/products/ring_headlight_retaining_oe_style_and-114025-7.html

My ring I have is in good shape, other than the one tab is missing...
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Post by chevellelaguna on Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:54 pm

If it's a 7" round eye then they're all the same....cars trucks vans even Ford.
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Post by thatfnthing on Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:26 am

chevellelaguna wrote:If it's a 7" round eye then they're all the same....cars trucks vans even Ford.

Yeah, I thought the same thing until I tried using ones from a 70-72 Monte. They were twice as tall as my originals. The light's the same, but the bucket isn't.
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Post by chevellelaguna on Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:36 am

Talking about the headlight retainer ring... Not the bucket, 73-77 a body for the bucket
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Post by Dinomyte on Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:16 pm

Hay - give me till tonight, I'm in London Ontario, and might have a third one that came with the '75 Laguna nose I bought last year, no duty, no exchange, maybe even pick it up if you're close.

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Post by thatfnthing on Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:21 pm

chevellelaguna wrote:Talking about the headlight retainer ring... Not the bucket, 73-77 a body for the bucket

Right.  70-72 Monte headlight retaining ring is taller (from the side) than the 73-75 Monte one.  Nearly double.  Since the headlight's the same, it must be because of the design of the bucket.  Using the 73-75 bucket with the 70-72 ring will result in a light that rattles around like Cookie Monster's eyeballs.   Therefore I wouldn't trust any 7" ring from any vehicle other than a 73-75 A-body unless someone's actually measured it.

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Post by 76 Malibu on Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:44 pm

Dinomyte wrote:Hay - give me till tonight, I'm in London Ontario, and might have a third one that came with the '75 Laguna nose I bought last year, no duty, no exchange, maybe even pick it up if you're close.

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Sounds good! Let me know, I actually have family in London.
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Post by 76 Malibu on Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:46 pm

As far as the headlight ring goes, I know that the one for these G3's are a bit odd. I bought a universal fit one that had a whole bunch of tabs on it. No matter what, one 2 or the three would work! It definitely seems for whatever reason GM changed the design on these headlight rings.
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Post by Dinomyte on Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:35 am

76 Malibu wrote:
Dinomyte wrote:Hay - give me till tonight, I'm in London Ontario, and might have a third one that came with the '75 Laguna nose I bought last year, no duty, no exchange, maybe even pick it up if you're close.

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Sounds good!  Let me know, I actually have family in London.

Tony - Sorry to say I found the third ring but it only has 1 of 3 tabs on it, and that one tab isn't whole either.
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Post by 76 Malibu on Thu Jun 18, 2015 8:42 pm

Thanks for checking. Yours is worse than mine, I at least have 2 tabs!
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Post by Limey SE on Thu Jun 18, 2015 11:33 pm

Offer still stands Paypal the loot then I can will order them for you, You would have had them by Now LOL Jus Sayin LOL
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Post by 76 Malibu on Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:49 pm

For future reference, the headlight rings for the 1973-77 Chevelles with 7" round lights is:

GM part #5964574

From doing some checking, it looks like these were also used on the following cars:

1976 - 81 Camaro
1975 - 79 Nova
1973 - 1980 Chev Trucks

Earlier rings are different.
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