Ignition Switch
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dynchel
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Ignition Switch
Ok, just got my '77 Malibu running for the first time in 3 years. Its been 5 years since the motor ran. The original kick to get it off the road and apart was a bad ignition switch. Today I tried it for the first time and it worked a couple of times, but then I had to climb under the car and jump the solenoid to get it started. The switch was really hard to turn and I had to twist it as far as I could before it'd crank. Then it quit working.
So whats bad? Its been years since ive had a GM column apart. I know the actual key switch engages rods and in turn move a switch, correct? I have an '80 El Camino column and an '81 Malibu column, can I swap parts out of these? I'd probably use the '81 column, the car had 77k on it and a half a dozen key copies.
I'm going to start buttoning things up here really quick now that I know the timing is correct and I'd like to be able to start it with the key. I know for sure it's nothing to do with the wiring but in the column. Please help, i'm going to pull it apart very soon.
So whats bad? Its been years since ive had a GM column apart. I know the actual key switch engages rods and in turn move a switch, correct? I have an '80 El Camino column and an '81 Malibu column, can I swap parts out of these? I'd probably use the '81 column, the car had 77k on it and a half a dozen key copies.
I'm going to start buttoning things up here really quick now that I know the timing is correct and I'd like to be able to start it with the key. I know for sure it's nothing to do with the wiring but in the column. Please help, i'm going to pull it apart very soon.
DiscoMalibu- G3GM Member
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Re: Ignition Switch
Sounds like the ignition switch needs to be adjusted on the lower end of column. It can be slid up or down depending on the tumbler rod. It might even be bent a little causing it to drag somewhere inside the column. I know on my car, I had a non tilt column and my sons 76 elco had a tilt column, a few of the parts are not interchangeable. You probably already knew that! (I just reread your post).
Bruisr- G3GM Member
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Re: Ignition Switch
Thanks, i'll just have to pull it apart and check it out. I think theres two screws that the switch slides up and down on that can be adjusted. I don't remember, its been a long time!
DiscoMalibu- G3GM Member
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Re: Ignition Switch
Yes there are & that little slider rod has to be in there correctly also. Take notes or pics when you remove it. They're not hard to adjust if that's the issue. BTW...happy belated B-day.
77mali- Donating Member
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Re: Ignition Switch
Thank you
I did fool with it a little today, I took the cover off under the dash where the two knobs are for the vents. I turned the key and reached up and pushed the rod down at the same time. Wha-la! It cranked over and fired right up. I'll just adjust it when I get time, simple fix! I'm probably going to replace the switch too because its really sloppy and I have one thats like new.
I did fool with it a little today, I took the cover off under the dash where the two knobs are for the vents. I turned the key and reached up and pushed the rod down at the same time. Wha-la! It cranked over and fired right up. I'll just adjust it when I get time, simple fix! I'm probably going to replace the switch too because its really sloppy and I have one thats like new.
DiscoMalibu- G3GM Member
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Re: Ignition Switch
I wish my starting issue was that easy. I still haven't tracked down the culprit. I tried to put a wire in the nuetral safety switch and loop it, but it didn't change anything. I am loosing hope for driving the car to it's first ever show!
driveit- Donating Member
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Re: Ignition Switch
Make sure the connections at the starter are clean ie arent green with corrosion.
dynchel- Donating Member
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Re: Ignition Switch
There's a connector on the neutral/start switch too, so maybe you could make sure it's on all the way etc...
If you should want to drop the column down from the dash to get to the switch easier, don't forget to un-hook the little cable that moves the shift selector indicator dial. It's clipped onto the sleeve that the shift lever is mounted on, with one screw holding it...
If you should want to drop the column down from the dash to get to the switch easier, don't forget to un-hook the little cable that moves the shift selector indicator dial. It's clipped onto the sleeve that the shift lever is mounted on, with one screw holding it...
pila- Donating Member
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Re: Ignition Switch
I loosened the two screws on the switch, moved it upward on the column, now it works like brand new! Thanks folks!
DiscoMalibu- G3GM Member
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Re: Ignition Switch
Good to hear it's working OK with just an adjustment !
pila- Donating Member
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