I think the one off the '73 El Camino SS sitting up here in MN that's being parted is off the car and sitting in the truck bed. Haven't bothered to look at it's condition, though. I rarely get involved in used bumpers as they always have flaws and usable condition is always subjective. Plus, up here in the Rust Belt, they are a p.i.t.a. to remove due to rusted bolts; especially, separating the backing support. But, if you'd like me to look at it, I can do that. They used to quote me $100 for the bumper...but, that's been several yrs ago and things have changed when ownership transferred from father to son.