Nick's 1973 454 Malibu "Buff"
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Re: Nick's 1973 454 Malibu "Buff"
by mikidymac Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:39 pm
I can't wait to see how the suspension package works.
I bought the Speed Tech Road Assault front kit but they didn't have a kit for the rear although I think their coilover kit for the 96' Impalla will bolt in.
The QA1 rear kit is less expensive too.
I agree with the pricing you found on that kit. It pisses me off when a company sells stuff for more on their site than on second party sites. In my mind they are basically saying, "We are ripping you off and charging you more that we need to on these parts." If they can sell them to Jegs for less and still make money then they must be sticking it to us on their own website.
I bought the Speed Tech Road Assault front kit but they didn't have a kit for the rear although I think their coilover kit for the 96' Impalla will bolt in.
The QA1 rear kit is less expensive too.
I agree with the pricing you found on that kit. It pisses me off when a company sells stuff for more on their site than on second party sites. In my mind they are basically saying, "We are ripping you off and charging you more that we need to on these parts." If they can sell them to Jegs for less and still make money then they must be sticking it to us on their own website.
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Re: Nick's 1973 454 Malibu "Buff"
by thatfnthing Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:12 pm
mikidymac wrote:It pisses me off when a company sells stuff for more on their site than on second party sites. In my mind they are basically saying, "We are ripping you off and charging you more that we need to on these parts." If they can sell them to Jegs for less and still make money then they must be sticking it to us on their own website.
Their intent is not to rip anybody off. They do that so they don't undercut their distributors like Jegs and Summit -- those guys will move a lot more of their product for them than they ever would just through their own website. If they sold it for less (or even the same amount), people have no reason to buy from Jegs or Summit, and they will stop selling the product. They'd effectively shoot themselves in the foot. This is the whole concept behind MSRP -- the manufacturer's price is artificially high so the distributors can mark it down to do the actual selling.
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Re: Nick's 1973 454 Malibu "Buff"
by Showtime73 Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:32 am
mikidymac wrote:I can't wait to see how the suspension package works.
I bought the Speed Tech Road Assault front kit but they didn't have a kit for the rear although I think their coilover kit for the 96' Impalla will bolt in.
The QA1 rear kit is less expensive too.
I agree with the pricing you found on that kit. It pisses me off when a company sells stuff for more on their site than on second party sites. In my mind they are basically saying, "We are ripping you off and charging you more that we need to on these parts." If they can sell them to Jegs for less and still make money then they must be sticking it to us on their own website.
There's still a lot of work to do, but I'll let you know how it rides on the coilovers. Jegs didn't ask for a spring rate, so I'm hoping I get the chance to specify before they ship it. It takes about a week to ship and comes straight from QA1.
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Re: Nick's 1973 454 Malibu "Buff"
by mikidymac Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:38 pm
thatfnthing wrote:mikidymac wrote:It pisses me off when a company sells stuff for more on their site than on second party sites. In my mind they are basically saying, "We are ripping you off and charging you more that we need to on these parts." If they can sell them to Jegs for less and still make money then they must be sticking it to us on their own website.
Their intent is not to rip anybody off. They do that so they don't undercut their distributors like Jegs and Summit -- those guys will move a lot more of their product for them than they ever would just through their own website. If they sold it for less (or even the same amount), people have no reason to buy from Jegs or Summit, and they will stop selling the product. They'd effectively shoot themselves in the foot. This is the whole concept behind MSRP -- the manufacturer's price is artificially high so the distributors can mark it down to do the actual selling.
That makes sense. I guess it wouldn't hurt to call them directly and see if they have any "special" pricing to order direct.
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Re: Nick's 1973 454 Malibu "Buff"
by thatfnthing Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:01 pm
mikidymac wrote:
That makes sense. I guess it wouldn't hurt to call them directly and see if they have any "special" pricing to order direct.
That's definitely worth a shot. Sometimes all it takes is getting the right guy on the phone and he'll hook you up on the sly.
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Re: Nick's 1973 454 Malibu "Buff"
by Showtime73 Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:21 am
Some slight hood modification to let the monster breathe!! At first I wanted to do the 70-72 cowl induction, but never found a donor for the right price. This one turned out really nice.
A few different looks at the brakes and suspension.
Checking out the new wheels and stance. Excuse the wire wheels, they were the only things big enough at the shop to fit with the 12/13 inch disc brakes.
It's at the exhaust shop getting the Borla mufflers put on and 3 inch H-pipe. Unfortunately, we couldn't bend 3 in tail pipes so we got some pre fab 2.5 in pipes.
Last thing before it's parked in the home garage is the paint. she'll be coming home for Christmas.
I'll post all the cruise night and car show pictures on my instagram page 73_malibu_454 if you care follow.
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Re: Nick's 1973 454 Malibu "Buff"
by Showtime73 Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:32 am
Everything that's done so far:
QA1 Level 3 suspension kit
CPP big brake kit
Boze Clutch 18x9s wrapped in Michelin Pilot Super Sports
Rebuilt 454 w/ Holley double pumper, Edlbrock RPM Air Gap intake, and comp cam nostalgia plus kit
TH400
Dougs headers
Borla Exhaust
3.42 richmond gears spinning the posi rearend
And tons more little things with a long way to go!
QA1 Level 3 suspension kit
CPP big brake kit
Boze Clutch 18x9s wrapped in Michelin Pilot Super Sports
Rebuilt 454 w/ Holley double pumper, Edlbrock RPM Air Gap intake, and comp cam nostalgia plus kit
TH400
Dougs headers
Borla Exhaust
3.42 richmond gears spinning the posi rearend
And tons more little things with a long way to go!
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Re: Nick's 1973 454 Malibu "Buff"
by Showtime73 Sat Dec 02, 2017 11:01 am
A quick open header video while testing the new electric fans.
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Re: Nick's 1973 454 Malibu "Buff"
by Limey SE Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:45 pm
sounds good BUT Tell me about that sway bar ??
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Re: Nick's 1973 454 Malibu "Buff"
by Showtime73 Sat Dec 02, 2017 11:36 pm
It looks pretty sweet under there huh...😀😀😀
1in, solid steel, direct bolt on.
She hasn't been driving yet to learn what adjustments need to happen so there's more updates to come.
1in, solid steel, direct bolt on.
She hasn't been driving yet to learn what adjustments need to happen so there's more updates to come.
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Re: Nick's 1973 454 Malibu "Buff"
by Limey SE Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:24 am
Showtime73 wrote:It looks pretty sweet under there huh...😀😀😀
1in, solid steel, direct bolt on.
But shaped way way diff than the Impala one I have whats the difference being so Snug in there
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Re: Nick's 1973 454 Malibu "Buff"
by fasrnur Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:40 am
I know you had shown a shot of what your's looks like Limey, and here's mine. Mine is the 1" Impala SS bar and you can see how tight it fits to my rear end. Not sure what's different about yours.
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Re: Nick's 1973 454 Malibu "Buff"
by Limey SE Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:49 am
this is the 9C1 police package I have for the rear
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Re: Nick's 1973 454 Malibu "Buff"
by Limey SE Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:50 am
mayb it fits different on the Cutlass then a Chevelle ??
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Re: Nick's 1973 454 Malibu "Buff"
by Joe73 Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:26 am
The height of the rear suspension will change how the sway bar tucks up to the axle. When a larger spring is placed in the rear it pushes the axle down away from the body. The axle does rotate a couple degrees but nothing noticeable. But the lower control arm angle where its bolted to the rear changes alot. And since the sway bar is bolted to the lower control arm, it rotates and "moves away" from the rear. Its just more noticeable with higher than stock suspensions. The sway bar gets less of a tucked look the more you raise the rear suspension away from stock specs.
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Re: Nick's 1973 454 Malibu "Buff"
by Showtime73 Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:27 pm
Thanks Joe, I'm sure I couldn't have answered it that well. It's a slightly different shape and the car is sitting about 6 inches off the ground right now.
Here's another look at it.
Here's another look at it.
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Re: Nick's 1973 454 Malibu "Buff"
by Limey SE Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:32 pm
Joe73 wrote:The height of the rear suspension will change how the sway bar tucks up to the axle. When a larger spring is placed in the rear it pushes the axle down away from the body.
yea i see what ya mean
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Re: Nick's 1973 454 Malibu "Buff"
by Showtime73 Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:57 pm
Here's a picture of the old one, the angle is different. So along with ride height, I think we all have different sway bars.
If anyone needs OEM suspension parts let me know. My car is not an SS, but as far as I can tell the only difference is factory A/C.
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Re: Nick's 1973 454 Malibu "Buff"
by bracketchev1221 Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:03 am
Showtime73 wrote:
Headed to the paint booth!!
Do you know anyone that has used those coil over shocks? I'm not crazy about holding the car up on the shock mount. That little bracket on the rear was never designed to hold car weight.
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Re: Nick's 1973 454 Malibu "Buff"
by Showtime73 Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:23 am
I'm sure I'm not the first, but that would be cool.
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Re: Nick's 1973 454 Malibu "Buff"
by Showtime73 Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:15 am
Looking at the QA1 bracket and how it mounts to the strut bracket, it seems pretty stable. Once all the kinks are worked out, I'll let you know if there's any trouble.
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Re: Nick's 1973 454 Malibu "Buff"
by builtnotbought Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:51 pm
bracketchev1221 wrote:Showtime73 wrote:
Headed to the paint booth!!
Do you know anyone that has used those coil over shocks? I'm not crazy about holding the car up on the shock mount. That little bracket on the rear was never designed to hold car weight.
I asked the same question to Ridetech guys but only about front suspension because I found several forum threads where some cars got cracks in the welds of upper shock mounts. And question also included lower a-arms shock mounts.
As for the rear it is much lighter so I think it will be ok, but front...
Ridetech answered - don't worry steel is thick
but I re-welded all frame anyway and still a little afraid of that fact But anyway it's a very important and interesting question.
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