getting me a 350

by 77malibu77 Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:47 pm

for the malibu classic
im buying a working motor its coming out of a 78 camaro matching numbers it runs just needs a rebuild for 375 im bout to talk him down to 350.....hopefully
it looks brand new because it was recently painted and the only reason he is selling is because he bought a rebuilt 454 (i wish i had the monies for it lol) for 750
but i want to build the 350 for torque it has a new cam in it that costs 175 and new stainless steel hoses and all them goodies

by 74MonteCarlo Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:49 pm

Good luck.

by 77malibu77 Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:03 pm

74MonteCarlo wrote:Good luck.

thx kyle and btw remember when you redid your pullstrap clips on the door?
i need to do mine but i dont know the website and i cant find the forum on here

by maliburacinfreak Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:59 pm

gonna pay 375 for a 350 that needs rebuilt?? thats a $150 motor at best

by 77malibu77 Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:47 pm

no it doesnt need rebuilt just new seals/gaskets lol

by 74Malibu383 Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:57 pm

77malibu77 wrote:for the malibu classic
im buying a working motor its coming out of a 78 camaro matching numbers it runs just needs a rebuild for 375 im bout to talk him down to 350.....hopefully

Brandon, seriously, you are confusing a lot of people with your posts. Take 30 seconds and re-read before you post. Not being an @$$, just telling the truth.

by The Dude Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:25 pm

Or at least put periods & punctuations in somewhere. I won't complain if I have to read an extra couple of sentences in your post. Especially if it's more legible. Also, if it needs new gaskets/seals it ain't worth $350.

by 74MonteCarlo Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:15 pm

You have pull straps on a Malibu Classic? Did you get Monte Carlo door panels for it? I got my parts from The Paddock, which is now out of business.

by 77malibu77 Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:57 pm

74Malibu383 wrote:
77malibu77 wrote:for the malibu classic
im buying a working motor its coming out of a 78 camaro matching numbers it runs just needs a rebuild for 375 im bout to talk him down to 350.....hopefully

Brandon, seriously, you are confusing a lot of people with your posts. Take 30 seconds and re-read before you post. Not being an @$$, just telling the truth.

i dont know what to tell you im not really an internet person other than this website

by 77malibu77 Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:58 pm

74MonteCarlo wrote:You have pull straps on a Malibu Classic? Did you get Monte Carlo door panels for it? I got my parts from The Paddock, which is now out of business.

no my friend gave me his doors and he had the monte carlo upper and lower door panels and they had the pull straps just the ends are all messed up

by 74MonteCarlo Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:03 pm

I have no idea where else you can get the end caps. If I see any, I'll let you know.

by 77malibu77 Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:17 pm

74MonteCarlo wrote:I have no idea where else you can get the end caps. If I see any, I'll let you know.

thx i appreciate it

by ant7377 Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:34 pm

They are on ebay, 25 bucks for the set. (chrome end caps)

by 77malibu77 Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:55 pm

thx ant gave you street cred

by 77malibu77 Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:06 pm

ok so i just got the 350 in the garage today not bad, has the new cam in it already i just need an alternator, fuel pump, distributor, starter, and spark plugs, and new head gaskets thats it

by pila Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:05 pm

Has it been run since the new cam was installed? If not you will need a break-in run of course, and a pre-oil of the block. If it's been broken in already, you will just need to pre-oil it with a pre-oiler which goes in the distributor position. I use and old distributor with the gear teeth machined off, and the top plate on the shaft cut off etc.

by 77malibu77 Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:39 pm

i dont know if it ran yet he just put it in. what do you mean a pre-oiler?

by pila Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:44 am

A pre-oiler is a way to turn the oil pump with the distributor removed, by using an electric drill motor to turn the oil pump, to fill the oil passages in the block/crank etc before start up. When an engine sits idle for an extended length of time, the oil in the block may drain back into the pan to some extent. Pre-oiling is like insurance against a dry start on the bearings etc. If the old cam was removed to be replaced, the engine will be mostly without oil in the block.
Like I mentioned, if it hasn't been run yet, it needs a cam break-in (2000 to 2200 RPM for 30 or more minutes, if it has flat tappets) ( not roller lifters) Idling a new cam for any period at all will eat the cam and lifters within the first 10-15 minutes of run time.
Others here will likely chime in about this.

by TWBouska AKA Wooderson Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:20 am

pila wrote:A pre-oiler is a way to turn the oil pump with the distributor removed, by using an electric drill motor to turn the oil pump, to fill the oil passages in the block/crank etc before start up. When an engine sits idle for an extended length of time, the oil in the block may drain back into the pan to some extent. Pre-oiling is like insurance against a dry start on the bearings etc. If the old cam was removed to be replaced, the engine will be mostly without oil in the block.
Like I mentioned, if it hasn't been run yet, it needs a cam break-in (2000 to 2200 RPM for 30 or more minutes, if it has flat tappets) ( not roller lifters) Idling a new cam for any period at all will eat the cam and lifters within the first 10-15 minutes of run time.
Others here will likely chime in about this.

you can also use a ton of cam lube on the cam and lifters when you install it as well couldnt you?

when i broke in my engines after rebuilding, ive always just used cheap regular oil (not synthetic) and then put a ton of cam lube on the lifters and cam, broke in the cam, and then drove the car 500 miles before doing an oil change + filter with synthetic.

is this an effective alternative when rebuilding/building an engine in your opinion? (im still relatively new to hot rodding (only doing it about 2 years now)

by TWBouska AKA Wooderson Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:28 am

If you want good torque in a streetable motor for cheap in a 350/383 I really recommend mine.

350 block
Vortec Heads
Edelbrock EPS Intake
Cam 272/282 advertised duration with .465/.488 lift and 112 lobe separation

however, an 1800 stall converter really helps because the engine immediately jumps to about 1000 rpm as soon as you put it in park with a stock torque converter (I think a smaller cam would help with this)

anyways, the set up was also cheap, the parts, gaskets and all included was about $1,200...I can get the complete parts list if your interested.

by The Dude Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:39 am

Not a bad combo at all TW, but a smaller cam with a tighter LSA would have netted some more low end grunt without affecting vacuum. I'm also a fan of Swirl Port heads if Vortecs are out of the price range. Most people chunk them so they can be had for a song & they do what they were designed for, stump pulling torque while falling flat on their face after about 4,000-4,500 rpm. Not a real performance head casting, but good for daily drivers wanting to upgrade from a smog casting. JMHO.

by 77malibu77 Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:29 pm

thx TW but im gonna just use the heads that are already on there, but the guy i bought it from is giving me the double hump heads but idk about those...
and im going to have a 4 barrel on it so i am going to use one of those edelbrock performer intakes.
and it already has a new cam in it

by The Dude Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:59 pm

Got the casting #'s for any of this? At least you could have an idea of what you're running.

by 77malibu77 Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:00 am

Rago wrote:Got the casting #'s for any of this? At least you could have an idea of what you're running.

like the heads numbers and engine block number? srry i am still new to the engine building part lol

by TWBouska AKA Wooderson Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:47 am

77malibu77 wrote:thx TW but im gonna just use the heads that are already on there, but the guy i bought it from is giving me the double hump heads but idk about those...
and im going to have a 4 barrel on it so i am going to use one of those edelbrock performer intakes.
and it already has a new cam in it

is it a stock cam? cause if that engine is exactly how it was run in 78, its going to have about 150 horsepower.

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