Re: 76 Laguna parked in 2002

by g3chevy / Mr Pontiac Wed Jan 18, 2023 11:00 am

jpowen49 wrote:Would the rods slide into the sewn in pockets and then snap the clips to the rod at the right spacing. I would need 35 snap clips.

The rod is inserted into the sewn listing that's already incorporated into the headliner. Then the listing with the rod inside is snapped into the plastic clips. And then you can attach them by sliding them into the slots of the inner roof structure. It may be easier to insert the plastic clips into the roof structure first, then snap in your headliner to make alignment a little easier. Hope this all makes sense.

by jpowen49 Wed Jan 18, 2023 11:56 am

g3chevy / Mr Pontiac wrote:
Limey SE wrote:So where does one aquire the rods??

That's why I mentioned OPGI. Their kit includes the rods and clips. So the installation looks completely factory. In my video at about the 1:25 minute mark, you'll catch a glimpse of this OPGI heading kit I installed about 10 years back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP_xSlGHqAg&t=82s

The headliner I received from OPGI had o clips but did have (5) rods. I guess I was expecting a headliner like this.

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I`m going to call rockauto and ask if the headliner comes with hanger clips.

by impalamonte Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:35 pm

HI ,

I too have performed this job years ago.....I think I had 8-10 hours in it. Very nervous when using a "heat gun" to tighten up the vinyl.....its easy to melt and blow through.
You dont keep in one area too long! Keep it movin!!

https://www.g3gm.com/t8709-update-1973-monte-carlo-body-off-frame-resto-now-with-ls

You can see it PAGE4 of the thread.

by g3chevy / Mr Pontiac Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:24 pm

jpowen49 wrote:
g3chevy / Mr Pontiac wrote:
Limey SE wrote:So where does one aquire the rods??

That's why I mentioned OPGI. Their kit includes the rods and clips. So the installation looks completely factory. In my video at about the 1:25 minute mark, you'll catch a glimpse of this OPGI heading kit I installed about 10 years back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP_xSlGHqAg&t=82s
The headliner I received from OPGI had o clips but did have (5) rods. I guess I was expecting a headliner like this.[url=https://servimg.com/view/20473598/50]

I`m going to call rockauto and ask if the headliner comes with hanger clips.

Hmmm....so no clips with your headliner kit from OPGI? I would call them and see if they simply forgot to ship the clips. As for Rock Auto, you'll have to email them as they have no phone customer support. And if I recall the ones they sell are made by ACME Headliner Co which is a great company, but I don't think they include the rods or clips in their kit.

by g3chevy / Mr Pontiac Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:50 pm

impalamonte wrote:HI ,

I too have performed this job years ago.....I think I had 8-10 hours in it. Very nervous when using a "heat gun" to tighten up the vinyl.....its easy to melt and blow through.
You dont keep in one area too long! Keep it movin!!

https://www.g3gm.com/t8709-update-1973-monte-carlo-body-off-frame-resto-now-with-ls

You can see it PAGE4 of the thread.

Mark, the overhead console really takes that headliner to another level! I go back to your build thread frequently for motivation.

by g3chevy / Mr Pontiac Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:53 pm

jpowen49 wrote:
g3chevy / Mr Pontiac wrote:
Limey SE wrote:So where does one aquire the rods??

That's why I mentioned OPGI. Their kit includes the rods and clips. So the installation looks completely factory. In my video at about the 1:25 minute mark, you'll catch a glimpse of this OPGI heading kit I installed about 10 years back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP_xSlGHqAg&t=82s
The headliner I received from OPGI had o clips but did have (5) rods. I guess I was expecting a headliner like this.

I`m going to call rockauto and ask if the headliner comes with hanger clips.

Someone on one of the FB groups I follow mentioned they took off the old plastic bows with the "T" heads from their old headliner and had them sewn into the new headliner. Seems that would also be a viable option to go back to totally original.

by Limey SE Wed Jan 18, 2023 5:35 pm

[quote="g3chevy / Mr Pontiac"]

jpowen49 wrote:
g3chevy / Mr Pontiac wrote:
Limey SE wrote:So where does one aquire the rods??

That's why I mentioned OPGI. Their kit includes the rods and clips. So the installation looks completely factory. In my video at about the 1:25 minute mark, you'll catch a glimpse of this OPGI heading kit I installed about 10 years back..

Someone on one of the FB groups I follow mentioned they took off the old plastic bows with the "T" heads from their old headliner and had them sewn into the new headliner. Seems that would also be a viable option to go back to totally original.

I have 2 sets of them So that's What I think I am gonna do G3chevy I dont have access to the rods and Have the New Headliner WHAT I THINK I am gonna do is try and put the the pieces in the "pocket" and slice open the Pocket where the piece needs to meet roof

by g3chevy / Mr Pontiac Wed Jan 18, 2023 5:54 pm

[/quote]I have 2 sets of them So that's What I think I am gonna do G3chevy I dont have access to the rods and Have the New Headliner WHAT I THINK I am gonna do is try and put the the pieces in the "pocket" and slice open the Pocket where the piece needs to meet roof [/quote]

Limey, that sounds like it might work. Let us know how that plays out.

by jpowen49 Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:25 pm

I sent an email to service@rockauto.com with these questions;

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This is the reply;
All the info we have is listed on the website.

If you don`t see the info your looking for we don`t have it.

That also means they are not important for fitment.

The manufacture always list the details that will be important to determine if the part will fit your vehicle.

That was no help at all.

by g3chevy / Mr Pontiac Wed Jan 18, 2023 11:26 pm

Yeah, Rock Auto has great prices but they have virtually no customer service to speak of.

by Finn Monte Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:10 am

Limey SE wrote:
g3chevy / Mr Pontiac wrote:
jpowen49 wrote:
g3chevy / Mr Pontiac wrote:
Limey SE wrote:So where does one aquire the rods??

That's why I mentioned OPGI. Their kit includes the rods and clips. So the installation looks completely factory. In my video at about the 1:25 minute mark, you'll catch a glimpse of this OPGI heading kit I installed about 10 years back..

Someone on one of the FB groups I follow mentioned they took off the old plastic bows with the "T" heads from their old headliner and had them sewn into the new headliner. Seems that would also be a viable option to go back to totally original.

I have 2 sets of them So that's What I think I am gonna do G3chevy I dont have access to the rods and Have the New Headliner WHAT I THINK I am gonna do is try and put the the pieces in the "pocket" and slice open the Pocket where the piece needs to meet roof

the original plastic bracket is too big for the pocket of the new headliner. it had to be sewn on the outside. I bought the acme trim from rockauto.

by 76Chevelle2Tone Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:26 am

The manufacture always list the details that will be important to determine if the part will fit your vehicle.

So that's what the Rock stands for!!

by zucchi Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:06 am

76Chevelle2Tone wrote:So that's what the Rock stands for!!

If it don't fit, you're using the wrong size rock?

by Keith Seymore Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:20 am

jpowen49 wrote:I sent an email to service@rockauto.com with these questions;

This is the reply;
All the info we have is listed on the website.

If you don`t see the info your looking for we don`t have it.

That also means they are not important for fitment.

The manufacture always list the details that will be important to determine if the part will fit your vehicle.

That was no help at all.

This portion of the thread is timely, as I will be doing a headliner install this winter (after my roll cage is complete).

I have a kit from Rock Auto on order and it should arrive within the next few days; expected ship date is Feb 6. I can report out what is included in the kit.

K

by 76Chevelle2Tone Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:47 am

zucchi wrote:
76Chevelle2Tone wrote:So that's what the Rock stands for!!
If it don't fit, you're using the wrong size rock?

The Rock of Rock Auto comes from Big Rock Candy Mountain apparently.

by jpowen49 Thu Jan 19, 2023 11:30 am

This portion of the thread is timely, as I will be doing a headliner install this winter (after my roll cage is complete).

I have a kit from Rock Auto on order and it should arrive within the next few days; expected ship date is Feb 6. I can report out what is included in the kit.

K[/quote]

Thank you Keith, I will be looking forward to your report.

by impalamonte Thu Jan 19, 2023 11:35 am

g3chevy / Mr Pontiac wrote:
impalamonte wrote:HI ,

I too have performed this job years ago.....I think I had 8-10 hours in it. Very nervous when using a "heat gun" to tighten up the vinyl.....its easy to melt and blow through.
You dont keep in one area too long! Keep it movin!!

https://www.g3gm.com/t8709-update-1973-monte-carlo-body-off-frame-resto-now-with-ls

You can see it PAGE4 of the thread.

Mark, the overhead console really takes that headliner to another level! I go back to your build thread frequently for motivation.

Thank you Mr.Pontiac.
I am glad people are seeing my thread and hopefully getting some useful information / ideas to help them . And , If nothing more...just to show how easy it is to do some stuff.

by Limey SE Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:29 pm

If I am reading this right in the Description it does come with the 5 bows

ACME AUTO 771441NPV Premier Non Perforated Vinyl Info One of our most popular parts
Coupe; 5 Bows; Style Number C37-7, D37-7

by jpowen49 Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:10 pm

I looked at THE PARTS PLACE website and they have a headline listed for the 76 chevelle. ( IN 1441Z headliner with T-hangers ).
I emailed them and ask what colors are available since non were listed. I also asked if I needed any parts from my old headliner.
reply received;

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by Finn Monte Fri Jan 20, 2023 3:38 am

Limey SE wrote:If I am reading this right in the Description it does come with the 5 bows

ACME AUTO 771441NPV Premier Non Perforated Vinyl Info One of our most popular parts
Coupe; 5 Bows; Style Number C37-7, D37-7

I ordered acme headliner for my monte from Rockauto and it's just fabric, no bows.
part had the same texts as in your example.

by jpowen49 Fri Jan 20, 2023 2:12 pm

Finn Monte wrote:
Limey SE wrote:If I am reading this right in the Description it does come with the 5 bows

ACME AUTO 771441NPV Premier Non Perforated Vinyl Info One of our most popular parts
Coupe; 5 Bows; Style Number C37-7, D37-7

I ordered acme headliner for my monte from Rockauto and it's just fabric, no bows.
part had the same texts as in your example.

What did you do to install the headliner?

by zucchi Fri Jan 20, 2023 2:28 pm

jpowen49 wrote:What did you do to install the headliner?

FinnMonte hasn't gotten that far yet. He's still two or three years away from that.

by Finn Monte Fri Jan 20, 2023 3:05 pm

page 5, first post.

https://www.g3gm.com/t12792p100-monte-carlo-75

by jpowen49 Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:11 pm

I`m going to order the headliner that THE PARTS PLACE has,
IN 1441Z with T-hangers. If it doesn`t have the plastic bows with t-hangers I guess I`ll start looking for a used headliner.
Does anyone know if the 73-74 2door coupe has the same headliner as the 75-76 2 door coupe?

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Thanks for looking.

by Limey SE Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:51 pm

I have 2 sets of the headliner bows with the clips its been freeeeeezzzzzziinnn here to go into shed and get headliner and check for the bow insertion I talked about

BUT if you need the other set I have just pay shipping and you can have them

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